AgriMissouri Showcase:. Food usually is not controversial. We all have different opinions about different kinds of food, but when is the last time you heard someone actually try to build a factual, evidentiary case to convince you of something like the value of pepperoni over Canadian bacon? That's not what happens with barbecue though. With barbecue, everyone's always trying to get to the fact of the matter. Sauce or no sauce. Sweet or vinegar-y, and people involved in barbecue always seem to take it so seriously. That's why it was a little refreshing to catch up with Bill Arnold from Perry on a windy day at the State Fair in Sedalia. Bill's the guy behind Blue's Hog Barbecue. He's the guy who's won 300 some awards and he's had his barbecue mentioned on CNN of all places, and that's just the start of it.
Bill Arnold:. We ship sauce to the U.S. Embassy in Norway three times this last year and I got a letter from the Ambassador himself saying wow wow // yeah. It's been on Air Force One. I just love to cook for people, make 'em smile.
Tyne Morgan:. Looking back, what's, I mean what's the best part of your career?
Bill Arnold:. Walkin' in to the World Championship it's the American // International Barbecue and Sauce Contest in Kansas City, we're at a 500 teams I finished tenth place, but six of the teams in front of me came up and hugged my neck and said thank you. It doesn't get any better than that.
Tyne Morgan:. Bill Arnold's creator and owner of Blue Hog's Barbecue Company out of Perry, Missouri is an entertainer not only with his food, but with his stories. Arnold's passion is where it all began.
Bill Arnold:. I got hungry you know. No, I love to cook. Cooking has always been a passion of mine. Creating new recipes, especially in the barbecue community, and I have a pretty good barbecue sauce to flavor the meats with. I just love to cook and use different flavors, spices, seasoning, and make sauce. My business actually started out, I was helping like cancer patients doing fundraisers, and people that were less fortunate than others and down on their luck, had been burned out of their homes, there was a family that got burned out of their home in Perry, Missouri about nine years ago and their neighbors asked me if I would cook a hog for a hog roast. I made up a batch of my sauce and sent it down there. Well, the next day the phone started ringing. What kind of sauce is that? Where did you get that sauce? And one gentleman that called happened to own a chain of IGA stores. He said you got something you need to work with and they say I've got a very unique taste buds or so, what I hear, but I'll think of a flavor and I can actually reproduce it in my kitchen - yeah. And I've taught a lot of cooking classes, but it’s just over the years I've created and studied a lot of different techniques and not only barbecue but canning, foreign dishes, Jamaican style dishes, Italian dishes, just any type of cooking I just love to explore it.
Tyne Morgan:. And it takes help from programs and other people to market the products on a higher level and really launch your business.
Bill Arnold:. And the Department of Agriculture and AgriMissouri have played a big role in taking me to a commercial level with my hobby, and I've had a lot of good help from people that are unique in their own fields such as marketing, spices, there's so many different aspects of getting a product onto the national level when you started out on your kitchen stove.
Tyne Morgan:. And sometimes Arnold said it just seems so surreal.
Bill Arnold:. You're in a restaurant in Kansas City waiting on a cup of coffee, and you hear people recognize you and talk about you behind your back and then they want your autograph and pictures. That's exciting. They follow you around saying are you him? And excuse me for being hoarse right now, but I've been talking for a few days, but I've been blessed. God has really blessed me with a talent and it’s cooking and working with flavors. I love to make people happy. I love to watch them smile, Tyne, and that's what it’s all about. I'm not about fortune and fame, it’s just they're knocking on my door, and I didn't cause it, I just, I'm doing what God tells me to do, and I just think that if I - I'm a single parent of three little girls, their ages 7, 8 and 9 I work for their future with my efforts.
Tyne Morgan:. And those three little girls that he was just talking about, well those are his three biggest fans.
Morgan Girl1:. I // //
Morgan Girl2:. I describe it of, I describe it that they like a very messy, it’s he's the man, and he cooks a great sauce. I don't really like sauce, but when I eat ribs and there's sauce on it, I think it’s a little spicy but I think it’s really good.
Morgan Girl 3:. I like whatever pappa makes but the best is that I think of is probably the original.
Tyne Morgan:. Was your dad a pretty good then?
Morgan Girl 3:. //
Tyne Morgan:. When I asked him to give us the highlight of his career, he's still so moved and appreciative, tears literally filled his eyes.
Bill Arnold:. About four years ago on CNN news on Sunday afternoon when we had just captured Baghdad there was an Air Force general flying missions in and out of Baghdad, CNN News did an interview with him, and asked him, "What do you miss about being at home and America, the American life." His comment was Blue's Hog Barbecue Sauce and outdoor cooking. And they had just captured these game preserves of Sadham Hussein's and was talking about how good it would be if we had Blue's Hog on this meat. They were having to eat, but three weeks later I got a phone call in the middle of the night, and it was from an Air Force general in Baghdad, and he said "Mr. Arnold, I require your presence I'm the guy that was on CNN News, and I've taken a 72-hour leave there's a barbecue contest at Veteran Stadium in Philadelphia, and I want you to cook for me." You got it! [laughs] So I drove to Philadelphia and I met this guy. He had his Air Force uniform on, sand on his boots, shaved head, like he had just come out of the desert, and we cooked this contest against 72 of the best chefs in the world, came in eighth place and we cooked kingfish. // that's the memories, I've got lots of those.
Tyne Morgan:. And now for the big barbecue question, sauce or no sauce? Well, the barbecue master has your answer.
Bill Arnold:. I try to make my barbecue products and dry rub seasonings not to over power or flavor meat but yet you enhance the natural flavor or meat.
AgriMissouri Showcase:. By the way, Bill won another grand championship at this year's Fair. You can find out more about has it barbecue at BluesHog.com. Of course, not everybody who goes to these barbecue competitions makes it a business. Tyne also caught up with somebody who got into the barbecue contest game on a whim and he's been at it ever since.
Tyne Morgan:. Fred Utlaut, founder of the team Road Kill Redeemers has been in competition barbecue for more than 17 years, and his answer is just a bit different than Arnold's. He says it’s all about who you're feeding.
Fred Utlaut:. Well, that's the big question, to sauce or not to sauce, and a lot of times they think well, if you're putting sauce on it you're trying to hide something, but then again, you know, I have a lot of people that you want to serve it the way they want to eat it, and a lot of people are going to put sauce on it. I prefer not to, because 5, 10, you know, 12, 13, hours cooking a piece of brisket and when the last five minutes put some sauce on it that may or may not be what they want, kind of defeats my purpose. I just want to get a piece of tasty meat that's done and then I'd rather they sauced it, but for competition purposes you almost have to sauce it.
Tyne Morgan:. And what do you do then before you sauce it to make it so favorable and ?
Fred Utlaut:. Well, on a lot of the meats, you know, like chicken particularly I'll brine that in a mixture of sugar and salt in a Ziploc bag for an hour or two, which gives it, it really helps it after you grill it to maintain the moisture in it.
Tyne Morgan:. Utlaut's career all got started with back yard barbecuing.
Fred Utlaut:. I just like to cook in the back yard. It’s kind of a fun thing to do, and there was a little contest in Concordia Missouri one year and I thought, I was scared to death, but I said I'm going to go try that, and got third and fourth and thought I can do this, and so from then on I just started picking up a few contests here and there and really enjoyed it.
Tyne Morgan:. And he's no rookie to the Missouri State Fair Barbecue Contest. He's been entering for more than a dozen years.
Fred Utlaut:. You know, I was always so excited if I could ever get my name called and I thought they're always giving away such beautiful trophies anyway it’s a nice plaque of Missouri and you have to get in the top five to get that, and after about three years, I think I got second in chicken, was so excited because I got called up and I got a plaque and then two years later I got first in something and then back and forth I could usually win at something but I couldn't put it all together until 2003 I finally put it all together and I was a grand champion then.
Tyne Morgan:. And Utlaut's key to successful barbecue? Enhancing the flavors of the meat before you even put it on that firey grill. I'm Tyne Morgan with the AgriMissouri Showcase.
AgriMissouri Showcase:. We've got a link to the results of this year, and then just in case you're hungry, we've also linked to a few dozen places where you can get Missouri made barbecue of your own, all across the state. That's it for now, thanks to Tyne Morgan, Fred Utlaut, and Bill Arnold, and thanks also to Albert Collins, Johnny Copeland and Robert Cray along with AJT for our music this week. Next time, we'll have everything you ever wanted to know about a woman named Lettuce Lizzy. For now, I'm David Brazeal, and thanks for listening to AgriMissouri Showcase.